RE: [-empyre-] the devil, the monkey and the cathedral (not to mention the slim dog)

["Dirk Vekemans" <dv@vilt.net>]

Heard this through the grapevine:

language precedes emotion. 


It's always (never) :

absence < [whatever|naught]< language < [whatever|naught]< emotion

absence < [whatever|naught]< emotion is only valid if the whatever is
language.

Imho you're clanking up the absence with emotion or you're pre(post)-hiding
it in the fifth state you need for simulation. Nature don't need no 5
states, it ain't in the turing business, it goes tutu by itself.

The whole vempyre (sic?) thing stems from being able to prehend the language
process before the emotional filtering hits it (adding 'a bit' schizo,
constructing a flow interupt to tap the corpus delictum), not from any
cycling further onwards. In theory it sounds nice, living it is a bit more
scary.

& Cathedrals precede bishops in the same sense that you can have a Cathedral
without a bishop but not a bishop without a Cathedral. I do hope we could do
without for a change. Once & ...

In view of the discussion context: you seem to be re-enacting a
teleo-stripped rhythm of futurism, i needn't comment on that anymore
(http://www.vilt.net/nkdee/kristine/index.jsp#sondheim)

Heck, i don't know but i don't think so.

dv
 

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: empyre-bounces@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au 
> [mailto:empyre-bounces@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] Namens Federico Bonelli
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 maart 2006 16:22
> Aan: soft_skinned_space
> Onderwerp: [-empyre-] the devil,the monkey and the cathedral 
> (not to mention the slim dog)
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> Humans
> 	__fill your definition here__
> +
> all has been said about art critics:
> 	=
> 	frame, prison, block, stagnation, chatter, brain drain, 
> ideological fart in the strong wind
> 
> aRT
> a plea for an inversion of focus: don't use the lens to have 
> a bigger picture of the sun, but to light the fire. ART 
> relates to money, aRT to genius, art to human beings.
> 
> 	Emotions are self explicatory: language arrives after, 
> like the forensic after the crime, and uses sharp thoughts to 
> dissect the emotion-as-a-dead-corpse. Professional language 
> users that talk about their dissections are part of an 
> economical mechanism. Emotion crafters get lost in the tide, 
> like the fart over mentioned.
> 
> new-ism, any-ism: tools for the devil
> check were is the devil's hand in the preceding statement
> 
> existence of degrees of freedom and choices. To research with 
> them and against them is a non historical non evolutive 
> activity. Is a human activity. context gives the color. When 
> used in improper context they get the color green (dollars). 
> The emotion they transmit is the one of the package. West and 
> East have developed similar taste for package in XX century.
> 
> The monkey hits with her stick.
> 
> Under the hood we keep building cathedrals. The bishop pays for them.
> 
> the slim dog howls at the tired moon and we wait the tide to 
> get stronger.
> 
> best regards to Aristotele
> 
> f
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